Re: Scientology: That ROCKIN' Religion.

Jonathon (idiot@primenet.com) writes: > In article <3qold0$5dg@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> rogue@ccs.neu.edu (R Agent) writes:
> In article <3qold0$5dg@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> rogue@ccs.neu.edu (R Agent) writes: >
> >>In article ,
>>In article <idiot.169.0027A063@primenet.com>, >>Jonathon wrote:
>>Jonathon <idiot@primenet.com> wrote: >>>In article <3qis0u$4oc@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> rogue@ccs.neu.edu (R
>>>In article <3qis0u$4oc@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> rogue@ccs.neu.edu (R >>>Agent) writes:
>>>Agent) writes: >>>>In article ,
>>>>In article <idiot.160.00BB5E79@primenet.com>, >>>>Jonathon wrote:
>>>>Jonathon <idiot@primenet.com> wrote: >>>
>>> >>>>>1. A few years ago some Sea Org members had to eat some rice and beans.
>>>>>1. A few years ago some Sea Org members had to eat some rice and beans. >>>
>>> >>>>This has stopped, and was never widespread? You left the SO recently.
>>>>This has stopped, and was never widespread? You left the SO recently. >>>>Tell us you never ate rice & beans. I dare you.
>>>>Tell us you never ate rice & beans. I dare you. >>>
>>> >>>Never exclusively. I had them with turkey sandwiches. My sandwiches had
>>>Never exclusively. I had them with turkey sandwiches. My sandwiches had >>>bread, turkey, lettuce, and mayonnaise. And only one meal was like that in a
>>>bread, turkey, lettuce, and mayonnaise. And only one meal was like that in a >>>day.
>>>day. >>>
>>> >>>During my entire time in the Sea Org, I was never deprived of nutrition.
>>>During my entire time in the Sea Org, I was never deprived of nutrition. >>>Meals were always planned for a full variety of the basic food groups.
>>>Meals were always planned for a full variety of the basic food groups. >
> >>I'll accept your answer as representative of what you experienced. I
>>I'll accept your answer as representative of what you experienced. I >>won't call you a liar.
>>won't call you a liar. >
> >>What was the typical handling if your Org as a whole was downstat?
>>What was the typical handling if your Org as a whole was downstat? >
> >>What Org were you posted to?
>>What Org were you posted to? >
> > In the Sea Org, I was at Flag Bureaux, INCOMM, and ASHO F.
> In the Sea Org, I was at Flag Bureaux, INCOMM, and ASHO F. >
> > The stats of the org didn't determine the kind of food we ate. It was based
> The stats of the org didn't determine the kind of food we ate. It was based > on the amount of money the org allocated for crew meals that week.
> on the amount of money the org allocated for crew meals that week.

What a coincidence; I was at ASHO for a year and a bit, too. Beans and rice was the assigned diet of down-stat people, and people in lower ethics conditions. I've seen people be put on an exclusive rice and beans diet for three weeks. I was on a rice and beans diet for two weeks while I was in lower conditions. The beans were cooked in large square stainless steel pans and I had to get them myself from the back of the kitchen. The beans were *very* tasteless; these were not Heinz, folks. They were cheap, shitty boiled beans, that tasted so bad they nearly made you gag. The rice was also a long way from basmati; it was just as cheap and nasty. No condiments were allowed. No bread was served with it. Some of the people on the starvation diet would beg for scraps from other's plates; it was the priviledge of the up-stat to give these scraps off their plate. I was too proud to beg; I stayed on the starvation diet. As a side note, when I first went down to ASHO, and saw someone eating rice and beans in the mess, I commented that this was not an adequate diet, and could make them sick. A rude and snide SO bitch piped up with "You better get your fucking overts off on LRH; he designed this diet of rice and beans, and it is perfectly balanced." A friend told her that I was "green", and should be ignored for my "ignorance."

> At Flag Bureaux we were on low allo(cation) quite often. Through the
> At Flag Bureaux we were on low allo(cation) quite often. Through the week we > had a normal breakfast and lunch and then for dinner we had sandwiches, salad, > and rice and beans as side dishes. One day a week (Saturday?) we always had > pizza regardless of allo(cation). > > At ASHO F we were on low allo(cation) part of the time. We had normal > breakfasts and then lunches and dinners were relatively normal with a > particular food item being only for normal allo. We only had rice or beans in > a more traditional setting: chinese food over rice, mexican food with refried > beans, rice pudding, etc., but these were few and far between. > >>You missed answering a few of my challenges, btw. "Some time ago the >>church had a policy of declaring people 'fair game' for something". >>That's about as weasel-worded as you can get. "For something", uh >>huh. Go read the HCOB, and the one "cancelling" it while you're at >>it. "Maybe be tricked, sued, lied to or destroyed". Jonathan, can >>there be -any- possible justification to "trick, sue, lie to or >>destroy" someone? > > I only know of this reference from what I've heard from others. As a declared > SP, I cannot stop by my local org to refer to the references which you suggest. Fair Game policy is common knowledge; all SO crew know about it. I learned of it a few weeks after arriving at ASHO. I was never shown the policy "cancelling" it. It was assumed to be in full force.

ttyl,

-- "Guess what, Mr. Milne...you pricks don't scare me. I'm clean as a whistle, and I fight back. You picked the wrong redhead to fuck with, buddy." -- Tarla Cogito, ergo sum. Martin Hunt, av282@freenet.carleton.ca