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[Editor's note: When I read this, my jaw dropped in awe at Mr Marcus' amazing degree of cluelessness. Much as I respect my friends in the anti-CoS camp, I have to say that most of the worst wounds to Scientology and Scientologists have been self-inflicted. This post has to be one of the all-time worst in the newsgroup, and yet Mr Marcus appears to actually be proud of the reaction he has gotten! Wow.]

By Robert Marcus [102020.1551@CompuServe.COM]
26 Jul 1995 16:26:56 GMT

Due to popular demand, I am reposting my post. Why? Because apparently it gets all the Criminal Cultists riled up. And that is precisely what I want. Scientifically speaking, to watch the Black Panther mechanism at work with these bozos.

So far, there has been the predicted nullifications of any communication. Just the typical and predictable "make nothing of" with no actual "meat" or substance. A simple control mechanism used by the not-quite-bright. Next, there will be the usual attacks. No dialogue, just attack. Next, there will be, most likely, ignore. As I continue to post the same message over and over again, I won't get hardly a response. Someone will most likely attempt to circumvent the communication altogether. Talk about censorship. Oh, well. However, then the attacks will begin again. Cyclic but highly predictable behavior. Amusing to see.

RM>Give it up, Richardson. Start digging your grave RM>instead. You'll be there any day now, most likely sooner than RM>you think and 6 feet closer to your ultimate destination.

RM>So, I do apologise to Diane and the other Anti-Cult Cultists RM>if my statements were interpreted as an actual threat or did RM>indeed make anyone fear for their very lives, such as they RM>are. I meant no harm.

David C (Cultist) Smith:

>Here Robert shows us the superiority of the clear/OT mind
>by posting a death threat to Diane. F*ckin' pitiful Robert.
>F*ckin' pitiful. Your actions do NOT reflect well on the
>Church of Scientology.
Ad infinitum from the other 20 or so anit-C of S cultists. David has no clue as to what reflects well or not regarding the Church of Scientology. David is a mad-man, particularly since an apology was offered and all that was stated was more hate.

David is a very miserable sot.

Further, in discussing my message to Diane Richardson which included the above quote, my attorney laughed like hell in regards to any threat that the anti-C of S cultists read into it. He stated that apparently these fellows cannot read as there was no threat whatsoever. He thought it was great satire. The fact is Diane and the rest of you are digging your own graves and you don't even know it. Death is around the corner for all of you. Could be heart attacks, liver damage, auto accidents, falling debris, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. Who knows. You might get murdered! There is a possibilty. Won't be from me, that's for sure, nor any of my friends. No hit men, nothing. Your fates are already sealed and you are causing it all yourself. That is the real pity -- not being able to see it. One does reap what one sows. That is Biblical, by the way. You know. The Bible, the Holy Book of the Christians?

But these things will befall all of you and I believe you already know this. It is just a matter of time. One cannot harbor and spew such hatred especially about something of which none of you know what it is about and expect to survival long at all, no matter what the target is. In fact, to the degree you hate now, you must have loved in the first place. Interesting.

To sum up the tone of all responses from the Anti C of S cultists, just an attempt to instill the mechanism of fear as that is the chronic tone of the group. All the e-mail I recieved and threads had to do with "YOU THREATENED! THREAT! THREATS! YOU SHOULD BE IN FEAR! THREATS! YOU BE IN FEAR BECAUSE WE ARE AND WE WILL MAKE you FEAR!" or some such nonsense. A study in insanity. It has been fun.

But, contrary to the unsustantiated assertions by the anti C of S cultists, the Church of Scientology is expanding at an unprecedented rate. The Miami Church has expanded to 250 staff and will be the size of old St. Hill within the year. Nothing can stop the Church of Scientology. NOTHING. The universe is ours for the taking. And eveyone will win because Scientology is the only game in this universe in which everyone wins, even the anti C of S cultists. Eventually all their hate will be replaced with love for all beings, Scientologists or not. You will have love for your spouses, children, your fellow man and for all things, especially yourselves, of which none of you have that luxury. I hate to see people hate themselves as the anti C of S cultists do.

Finally, I love to log on to CompuServe and see all the little e- mails from the anti CofS cultists who pseudo-intellectualize and rationalize at what I've posted. Doesn't make a damned bit of difference to me. I suppose you must have that kind of agreement from each other in order to survive, in your universes. The mechanisms are so simple to understand. And, when understood, those who don't know any better are pitied as one would pity the homeless for their self created hell. There is no actual logic with you fellows. Sounds good, but closer investigation reveals no actual logic -- just mis-emotion.

The interesting thing is all of these "revelations" by the anti CofS cultists are confined right here. There is no real power with these fellows. Our worst enemies are now our friends because we have won the war. And the remnants, all 20 or so, are on Usenet squaking away amongst themselves for their own strange edification. The IRS, an enemy of 40 YEARS, are now our friends, enough so that, from what I've heard, some of the folks posting all the hatred may be being looked into concerning financial irregularities, tax evasion, money laundering, etc. I've even heard that at least one of the anti C of S cultists posting here is involved with child pornography over the Internet. Another one is being looked at for sexual abuse on campus. Time will tell. All the power, then, is imagined as NO ONE picks up on their allegations because it does not exist because the folks who HAVE THE POWER i.e., the press, IRS, etc., know the truth and have dropped the subject. Wouldn't pursue it for a million bucks. But here, the stuff persists (the reasons why, for us, at least, are so easily known and rectified) in the minds of those who see only what they want to see. All I can say is to refer to a song written by the late Frank Zappa -- "How Would you Like to Have a Head Like That?" No way in hell! God, what a miserable lot!

Further, what are the solutions proposed by the anti C of S cultists to anything? I've asked this question before and had no response. Apparently it is nothing more than fixated attention on a fancied threat to their survuval with no solutions or alternatives. The most humorous aspect is they claim to act "in the best interest of the public" or some such nonsense. Just plain silly, mainly because there is only opinion, altered documents, fabricated documents, foul language, pseudo- intellectualizations, rationalizations, justifications, attempts at humorous quips, all with no real facts, cause, what have you. Hence there is no actual harm done, though they think there is. Because they HAVE NO REAL POWER NOR THE WHEREWITHAL TO PUT ANY OF YOUR B.S. INTO ACTION! You BEG for money to defend some disgruntled ex-staff member who violated Federal copyright and trademark laws knowingly, and you're still suckin' around for bucks! How much has been raised? A $1.380? Gonna need a hell of a lot more than that!

We have the power and are using it and will use it in order to flourish and prosper for the greater good for the great number which DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF YOU. We are embarked on a game of total freedom for all mankind, the rules by which have never been on this planet and by which none of you could remotely understand because you abhor freedom and want only slavery. If not, then where are your solutions? A new day has dawned. The rules have changed. And you are the losers. The Anti CofS cultists ramblings, fixations, internal personal turmoil and baseless charges WITH NO REAL SOLUTIONS TO ANY PROBLEM facing mankind add up to stupidity as only the rational would offer solutions to problems. I, personally, will not be posting here again. None of you have the ability to dialogue. All that is offered is the trivial (who pays how much for e-mail and where messages come from, "death threats" where there were none, etc.). Why, someone even went to the extent of writing CompuServe stating that I had made a death threat! Then some other fellow said I should look at some fabricated SPAZMOTIC 9 or something, that is not the genuine article at all but some "reprinted" crap. Hmmm. Still no real action from the antis and no "meat". Then some bozo from the Church of the Sub Human wrote something unintelligble. "Cool". Alas, no real power as I said before. So, here is all this e-mail essentially stating "FEAR! YOU'RE in TROUBLE! WE HAVE YOU" or something just as silly, all up in arms about how I threatened someone with death. Funny, there was no threat. Just the usual sensationalisms from the anti CofS cultists. I got the correct information from CompuServe, so there was no violation of anything. A very futile attempt. God, what a mechanism. That is why you folks cannot win! It is all confined to computers and little "newsgroups"! Not very powerful but you gotta love it.

Enough of this nonsense. You folks, don't abuse your family members and co-workers too hard. And better get a good medical checkup. That heart attack may be lurking right around the corner. Toodles.

P.S. I will, from here on out, will never fear to harm another in a just cause -- that cause being the survival and ultimate victory of the Scientology religion and technology for the total spiritual freedom of all mankind.

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Well, folks, this has all been very interesting. A case study in people trying to die, apparently. Now, the interesting thing is, despite all the yappings and how Church financial records are "being looked into" and all that (have no idea from who as the "gentlemen" who made that comment did not reveal the precise sources) there is apparently no effect created on the expansion of Scientology whatsoever -- rather all this is confined to the twenty or so yappers right here in alt.religion.scientology. I find this fascinating. Further, I believe this "gentleman" is known and that his financial background is being looked into by our now ally, the IRS. Funny of how those doing the accusing usually are doing the precise things they accuse others of. None of the press is pursuing any of this crap as it only exists in the minds of these folks who apparently have the great ability to see what they want to see and who can look no further nor who have any real case at all -- just personal beefs because of their own transgressions. And to the ones who have no dealings with the Church past or present, just need to have a life and a bandwagon to jump on for lack of any real cause facing man today. So, Take it to the mainstream press, fellows, if you have so much "evidence". And the agreement amongst the antis would constitute the definitive definition of the word "cult". In fact, I believe you dudes and dudettes have actually started your own cult because you sure are enthusiastic about Scientology or the Church or L. Ron. Hubbard, etc., regardless of what you've been writing. Hubbard is right. He is as popular as ever. And the crap written always leads to those who don't simply buy your drivel and who will actually take a look for themselves and decide for themselves because they are of the elite group of thinking beings -- of which, from my observation, you fellows seem to echo the same stuff over and over again like a bunch of hypnotized, brainwashed zombies -- the very thing you accuse Scientologists of being. Fascinating, again.

It is interesting that there never is any mention of the great things this technology is doing for folks. I've met several who have recovered abilities never before dreamed of just by one auditing session. One gentleman rediscovered a tremedous talent for baroque music that was not availble to him this lifetime. It all came back to him. I spent a good hour with him listening to him play and play and play with the greatest vituousity counterpoint whereas he knew only this life that he liked the piano and took lessons but never could actually play it at all. Another recovered a tremendous talent for drawing whereas before her auditing she could barely sketch at all -- literally stick figures. I, myself, have uncovered an ability to read music fluently whereas I never could read that well even though I majored in the subject in school and read music all the time. Just some of the miracles of Scientology and man, the spirit.

I'll stay with my winning team - the Scientologists. There was never any doubt for me and millions of others. You guys are just a very minor vocal minority who are just sour grapes about something. Maybe none of you can make money. This is apparent by Dennis Erlich having to solicit funds for his defense. Cannot Dennis make money? And if the funds are still being asked for then apparently none of the rest of you have enough, either, to spare. This could go on for 100 years. Laughable, too.

Finally, from what I've read from the anti's, the real purpose is not to get out any truth at all. That would take an honest look from the people doing the rantings at their own actions and purposes. I doubt any of you could. You may not have the luxury of being able to do so. Somehow, with all the other situations on this planet, I find that attacking Scientology is just really a wrong target -- that there are others possibly needing attacking who are out there to put all of us into the grave. Maybe by going after the dudes who are burning down the Amazon could we not save this vital portion of Earth as it apparently does much for medicine, the atmosphere and your very health and vitality in this country, hmmm? How about the perpetuators of the internal combustion engine -- a machine, accordingly to many, that has been obsolete for at least 50 years and is chiefly responsible for most of the air pollution that exists in this country. How about them fellows?

It makes a sane man wonder what would the antis wish instead as a solution for mankind or its woes, if any. Maybe they have no solution. They just want to hurt or maim without any alternative solution because I have not read one yet. Thus is psychosis, I suppose. Ron was right -- they can be very convincing. To me, it shows the utter ignorance of the antis, as "clever" as they write (attempts at humor) but that is about the totality of the cleverness and nothing more. I would call them pseudo- intellectuals, personally. All the apparency of intelligence but without solutions or any real discourse. Sort of a bar mentality at your local rock club.

On that note, Henry at U of Denver, I got a call today from one of the Administrators. More on that later. Peter McDermott just rambles on and on about the same thing, offers no specifics, just "references" to others who howl about the same things over and over and over again, like a broken CD. Peter just cannot provide any specifics, period. Useless as tits on a bull you are, Peter, to your "cause".

Well, no use spending more time here. The anti's have become utterly boring. Should I ever return to this garbage I'm sure I'll find folks having a grand old time about this message with little pointless quips and such. Something like "gee, all those Brazilians are bad but this is more fun" or some such assinine statement, and you'll all chuckle and what have you. Fine. I just wonder, if all you are so clean and crimeless, whether you could walk away from all this? I doubt, that, too, because I think you guys have such thoroughly stuck attention on us you have becomed trapped by your own game -- a game you're all losing personally and otherwise at right now because you cannot walk away from it. Fortunately, I can. The sun never sets on Scientology.

Adios,

RM