Re: Declaration of Warren McShane in Scientology vs. Erlich/Tom/Netcom c

More laughs from the McShane depostion ...

8 Q. Now do you know how these copies of Mr. 9 Erlich's alleged postings were obtained? 10 A. They were obviously printed off from a 11 computer. 12 Q. Did you print them off? 13 A. No. 14 Q. Do you know who did print them off? 15 A. No. Other than -- I think Helena did. 16 Helena Kobrin. Or she had them done.

McShane accuses Helena, or Vera, of copyright violations. Very bad ... Dennis should register and sue. <g>

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1 Q. Do you have any idea of the number of 2 ministers who have had access to the NOTS documents? 3 A. I have no way of knowing.

Ooohhh, this is very bad. The protector of the 'Trade Secrets' <spit> has no way of knowning how many people have access to them. That's not going to look like adequate protection of 'Trade Secrets' <spit> is it?

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24 Q. And approximately what is the circulation 25 of the KSW News currently?

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1 A. I have no idea. 2 Q. More than 10,000? 3 A. I'm sure it is. 4 Q. More than 50,000? 5 A. I really don't know. I don't handle that 6 aspect of it. 7 Q. Is it distributed worldwide? 8 A. Yes.

Hmmm ... so KSW News goes to the active members of the 'Church' <spit> if I read this correctly. And McShane is confident that there are more than 10,000 but not sure about 50,000.

Milne, sure looks like the cult is shrinking every day.

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Oh, yeah ... you gotta love that Ms Oakley. Is her first name Annie? She sure is one sharp-shooter. McShane can look forward to being on the receiving end of a claim for damages:

12 Q. Did you review this article before it was 13 published? 14 A. Yeah, I'm sure I did. 15 Q. Did you review -- at the top of the second 16 column it says that there was a court order finding 17 copyright infringement. Did you review that statement? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Did you understand that to be a true 20 statement?

21 A. Yes. 22 Q. Are you aware of any order in this case in 23 which the court has determined in fact on the merits 24 that there has been any copyright infringement?

And, Vera please take note, that the magic word is 'alleged.' You have been making some rather absolute statements yourself. Seek counsel now before it's too late.

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11 Q. Throughout the article, there are the 12 initials used SP. What do those initials stand for? 13 A. Where is that at? 14 Q. Throughout the article there are the 15 initials used, SP. 16 A. Suppressive person. 17 Q. Is that a reference to Mr. Erlich? 18 A. Yes, it is in this article, it would be. 19 Q. What does it mean to be a suppressive 20 person? 21 A. Suppressive person is a person who has 22 antisocial personality traits, meaning he is 23 destructive or dangerous to society. 24 Q. Is that a definition or term that is known 25 within the Church of Scientology?

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1 A. Yes. 2 Q. Is that a term that you would understand 3 parishoners -- excuse me. Is that a term that 4 parishoners would understand to have the definition you 5 just described? 6 A. Yes.

McShane here admits that KSW News is saying that Dennis is 'antisocial' and 'destructive or dangerous to society.' That's gonna hurt when judgement time comes around!

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10 Q. Did you obtain Mr. Erlich's permission 11 before publishing these pictures from his home? 12 A. No. 13 Q. Have you utilized any information obtained 14 in the seizure for any purpose other than this 15 litigation? 16 A. No.

Huh? Is McShane suffering from some cognitive disorder?

1. Was permisson to publish the pictures given? 2. Has *any* information obtained in the seizure been used for any purpose other than litigation?

Pictures are information, they were published without permission. Amazing ability to communicate, a lie in two nos.

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20 Q. Have you ever heard of anybody pretending 21 to be a sea org member and walking into the advanced 22 organization in Denmark and obtaining copies of the 23 advanced material? 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. And do you know if they did anything else

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1 to get the advanced material other than demanding, 2 saying that they were sea org members and were entitled 3 to it? 4 A. They said they were representative of RTC. 5 Q. Do you know if they showed any 6 identification? 7 A. Not that I know of. 8 Q. So by the simple ploy of saying that they 9 were from RTC and not showing any identification, all 10 these various security devices you talked about were 11 foiled?

BWAHAHAHAHA ... Trade Secrets my ars!

Somebody just walked into an org, said "Hey dude, I'm SO give me the Secrets" and walked out the door with them?

[I have a passing acquaintance with Trade Secret laws from the protective measures taken regarding a computer operating system in the 70's. I can tell you, as one of the four programmers who had access to the operating system code, that noone could have walked into our company and simply asked for a copy. Never would happen for real Trade Secrets. ]

Zane --- Still laughing after all 200+ pages!