Re: Narconon

In article <DAHqw3.9Hp@jade.mv.net>, Elizabeth McCoy <emccoy@jade.mv.net> wrote: [...] >When I say "no data" -- that means I have no personal data to either
>agree with *or refute* the topic that I'm saying that about. It is often
>applied to something that just doesn't mesh with what I *have* seen -- I
>honestly, deep down, can't believe it. Some of it gets a reaction akin
>to being provided proof (or "proof) that George Washington was actually
>Jack the Ripper, say.
Beth, I admire your attitude of skepticism. I sometimes think you go too far with it, not accepting things that have considerable evidence to back them up. I think it's a matter of "first-hand" versus "second-hand" data. If someone presents me with hard data, I tend to accept that they are being honest and not trying to snow me (unless I have evidence that suggests they have a motive or history of doing so); I don't have to go to the lab and do the experiment for myself, or go to Flag and see people mistreated. But I see you have the skeptical nature in you, and I like that.

I'd like to present you with some data. You've probably seen Chris Miller (cmiller@lightside.com) posting pro-Scn material and being an apologist for the church.

Did you see his/her post to soc.women? It's quite interesting:

In article <3r5i0h$g55@covina.lightside.com> Chris Miller <cmiller@lightside.com> writes: >I have been reading with great interest articles which acknowledge
>American businesses with policies which assist women in the workplace.
>As a working mother, I am always on the lookout for such businesses and
=================== >for any cause which supports working women (especially single mothers).
>One leader in this field is the lawfirm of Morrison & Foerster and I was
>thrilled when my daughter landed a job there. Morrison & Foerster has
============================== >been validated for its pro bono work involving women's rights by Working
>Mother Magazine, the Bay Area chapter of Women in Communication Inc, the
>Alliance for Children's Rights, and other groups. I have heard however
>that this stance is more window dressing than truth and that some of
>their clients are actually abusers of women and children.
>I'm told they are doing pro-bono representation of a high
>publicity case involving a deadbeat father 9 years in arrears on child
>support with a history of wife-beating. It makes me wonder if the pro
>bono work in support of women and children is actually self-serving and
>whether they really deserve their awards. Does anyone have any
>information in this regard?
You know there's been considerable speculation on whether the church has mounted an official campaign of dirty tricks to "handle" a.r.s. To me, the above post is evidence to support that claim. At the least, it's an independant attempt at it. Morrison & Foerster is the law firm defending Dennis; that an outspoken advocate of the church and critic of Dennis should have a daughter working for the firm opposing the church in its current legal battle is too much of a coincidence for me to accept uncritically.

It is possible, I won't deny that. But I've asked Chris repeatedly to support the claims made in the post, and he/she has remained utterly silent. He/she even replied to one of my posts asking about it, but deleted all my questions and didn't answer any of them.

My conclusion is that Chris made the post in an attempt to smear the good name of Dennis's law firm. I'm still open to being proven wrong (I've seen some strange coincidences, this could be one), but the case looks good to me.

Was it part of an official campaign by OSA? Chris has shown remarkable access to source materials such as affadavits, court records and church press releases. This is not conclusive data, but it seems likely to me that he/she is simply using the resources of the church, presumably with their permission. He/she is certainly in close contact with church staff who are dealing with a.r.s; he/she showed that when he/she posted Jeff Quiros's (the DSA at San Fransisco Org) side of his confrontation with Grady Ward.

Anyway, I'm just presenting you with data. Make of it what you will. It'd be time consuming to track them all down, but all of my statements above can be backed up with posts to this newsgroup.

> Coulda sworn that the bio teacher said LSD
>went into fat cells. Know it's stored somewhere in the *body* -- asked my
>biochem major friend that, and it's her grades riding on the answer, so
>she should know.
You should consider looking into this in more depth. I've seen data in Biochemistry books that state the opposite, and several people who are experts in the field concur. Check it out.

>BTW, I've got a short-story in consideration for MZB's Fantasy Magazine
>right now -- wish me luck?
Good luck! Let me know when you get published, I'll be the first in line.

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RA

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