Facts and Fictions, Courts and Train Goals (was Antis are Cultists)

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In article <3ucj9e$qfm$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> 102020.1551@CompuServe.COM "Robert Marcus" writes:

> Well, this is even more fascinating. Some guy named Jesse
> Blalock or some such, can only harp on the fact that his E-mail
> doesn't cost him a cent. Again, an illustration of the
> irrational responding in nothing but irrationalities -- as if his
> e-mail situation means a thing to me.
But it does mean something to, you Robert. You told people that they should 'save their money' by not emailing you. In fact, in your first post to this thread you made quite a big thing about people 'wasting money' on emailing you. Of course, the only money they're wasting is, possibly, your own. Don't you remember that far back, my poppet?

> I must laugh!
It's good to let that pent-up frustration out once in awhile, but don't overdo it.

> Further,
> apparently there were many antis (cultists) who attempted to
> e-mail me regarding my last message. Told you I wouldn't read
> them. Why waste your time?
Forwarding an email copy of a post takes but a second and affords you much mirth. Spreading a little sunshine on the cult is what this group is all about. Each honest laugh brings you a step closer to freedom.

> You cultists are quite funny. The
> irrational responses to the irrational is so predictable. But I
> love the "facts" that the irrational antis (cultists) post.
>
More facts later in this post, I promise. Plenty of solid, 100% certified, legal judgements on illegal actions of the church of scientology and its senior members. Just read on. Did you like the full copy of the History of Man in SCAMIZDAT 9? How about the HCO bulletins? I have emailed Helena Kobrin to ask her whether the Gorilla Goals are church copyright. If not, I intend to post it in one of the sf*creative newsgroups. It may _just_ make a nice Moose poem for alt.bigfoot. I'm pretty sure the latest SCAMIZDAT is just a hoax. Well, maybe the 1969 copy of History of Man is for real. Most of the rest is just palpable rubbish designed to make your church look bad. How about some facts? You know I can back these statements up. I am citing court trial numbers where necessary--each of these admittedly savage indictments of the church is a matter of public record, and each is a direct result of the actions of the church, not its critics. o E-meter condemned by US FDA 1971, in a ruling in which the court describes Hubbard's claims as a fraud and quackery. Case No. D.C. 1-63, United States District Court, District of Columbia, July 30, 1971 (333 F.Supp. 357).

o Eleven senior scientologists imprisoned on criminal charges in a case in which many other scientologists were named as unindicted co-conspirators--including the church founder L. Ron Hubbard. Founder's wife Mary Sue Hubbard sentenced to a five year prison sentence and the maximum fine penalty. The charges related theft of government property and alteration or destruction of government records relating to the cult. No US government office was safe from the Scientologists. In a sentencing memorandum, the US Government, prosecuting, said:

"It is the position of the United States that each and every one of the defendants herein fulfilled his duties as expected by the Church of Scientology, that all of their criminal activities, as well as those of all unindicted co-consiprators, were carried out in furtherance of the very goals of their church. The very policies of the church, as reflected by its Guardian Orders, called for the execution of massive criminal conspiracies and rewarded the participants for their success in carrying out these criminal policies."

o Critic of the church Paulette Cooper, a journalist who wrote a book called "The Scandal Of Scientology" was deliberatelty harassed almost to the point of insanity by a deliberate church plan which came to light as a result of FBI raids on church premises. The plan, Operation Freakout, involved impersonating Paulette Cooper, making bomb threats traceable to her, and making anonymous and false accusations against her. It was brought to light in the Jane Kember trial, District Court, DC, criminal case #78-401. There are more. I could quote Judge Paul Breckenridge, Justice Laity, the German Labor Court, the French court that convicted L. Ron Hubbard in his absence when he skipped the French jurisdiction, and many other court verdicts against the church of scientology and its founder and prominent members. I could quote the affidavits of many former senior members describing the way the church has treated its members in the past. I could quote HCO bulleins and Guardian Orders which act as savage self-indictments of your cult.

Why are you so bad at this? Like RonArtistR, you try to project contempt, but all that comes across to me is your fear. You focus on belittling the "facts" because the facts about your cult are what hurts, but you just draw attention to your impotence, the inability to deny these facts. I doubt whether you have ever dared to read and critique any factual post on this newsgroup. You've certainly never followed up anything factual that I have posted. Perhaps you will make an exception, this time. I look forward to your detailed, point-by-point refutation of this post.

Keep on rock-slamming on this, Robert. PTS. Still, nice of you to give us all a little light relief, and an excuse to fill up your mailbox.

A little more material for your funny bone:

'At the start of each goal (or pair perhaps) a face may come up and say "You still here? Get out. Get off this train. We hate you." And from the speakers "This happened to you yesterday, tomorrow, now. This is your departure point, keep coming back. You'll be meeting all your friends here...We hate you. Get out. Don't ever come back."'

-from _The Train Goals_, part of Scamizdat 9

[an obvious forgery, but nevertheless an alarmingly accurate surrealist evocation of 1960s rail travel.]

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