Re: Teaching Andy About E-Meters

The entity known as David Talbot (dlt@lightside.com) posted: * > * >>Dianetics has nothing to do with curing illness, although it can do * >>that most of the time and works, * > * >I see a contradiction in the above sentence...

* There is no contradiction. The fact that Dianetics is effective in * curing psychosomatic illness doesn't mean the purpose of the Church is to cure * illness. The purpose is to set people free spiritually, if by doing this * someone resolves a cold or the flu, this is incidental and it is not * the purpose of Dianetics.

* -- * David Talbot * dtl@lightside.com

But this is not true, David. The purpose of Dianetics IS to cure illness. Hubbard says so in the book. If you'll look on pages 14-15, you'll plainly see the list of what Hubbard claims Dianetics to be:

"Simple though it is, Dianetics does and is these things: 1. It is an organized science of thought built on definite axioms (statements of natural laws on the order of those of the physical sciences). 2. It contains a therapeutic technique with which can be treated all inorganic mental ills and all organic psychosomatic ills, with assurance of complete cure in unselected cases. ... 6. The single source of mental derangement is discovered and demonstrated, on a clinical or laboratory basis, by Dianetics. ... 11. A workable explaination of the physiological effects of drugs and endocrine substances exists in Dianetics, and many problems posed by endocrinology are answered. ... 13. The field of cytology [study of cells] is aided by Dianetics, as well as other fields of research." LRH, Dianetics, pp14-15.

So what we have here are plainly claims that Dianetics will in fact cure illness and disease as a result of clinical testing in a laboratory environment. There is no mention here of Dianetics being a spiritual study that, as a SIDE effect, MAY cure illness. Hubbard claims "assurance of complete cure" for some cases. There is no ambiguity here, David. Your statement is contradicted by Hubbard's own writing.

There still is the question, however, of WHERE this clinical research is. there is no sign of it in the medical journal databases. Dianetics doesn't name any, it just makes bald statements of "scientific fact" whenever Hubbard lays a good story down.

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